The current version being debated by UKIP!

“Should the UK Independence Party's MEPs join a European Political Party and a European Political Foundation as defined under Regulation EC 2004/2003?”

Ballot papers due with Independence magazine scheduled for Monday 18-Jul-2011.
Return before Monday 15-Aug-2011
Count 16-Aug-2011

Returning Officer Steve Allison

Party Applications to form PEPPs 30-Sep-2011

CONSIDER AESOP The Lion & The Fox:

The EU was failing and was corrupt. So they pretended to be handing out money, which was just a ruse to make the greedy come to help progress their scam, but the strings attached were binding if hard to see.
The EUroRealists also came to see the offer, but didn't join a PEPP wishing to deal with The EU from outside its political clutches.
The EU asked the EUroRealists why they didn't come in as it was so lavishly rewarded and comfortable living on bribes.
The EUroRealists replied, 'Because we can see the tracks of those going in, but they are destroyed and there are no tracks showing they survived.'

Other people's lives are lessons in how we can avoid danger: it is easy to enter the house of a powerful man, but once you are inside, it may already be too late to get out.

Monday, 20 June 2011

20-Jun_2011 - In Answer to Noel MATTHEWS Question.

20-Jun_2011 - In Answer to Noel MATTHEWS Question.


in answer to the question Noel Matthews asked:
The main concern that I have is about the vote itself. This is a party referendum, but what ar the consequences of the result?
Fundamentally it is clear from Nigel Farage's comment to Trevor Colman at conference last year that if the answer were a binding NO then Nigel believes he would personally loose £1Million a year in funding he controlled and could use as he does now to hire mistresses, praise singers and family.
What I want to see is that all of our MEP's abide by the decision of the members vote, whether it be Yes or No.
What YOU want and what you get are irrelevant to the leadership!

Stuart Agnew gave a fairly unequivocal indication that should we vote No, he will join a PEP anyhow and risk deselection at the next euro elections.
Not fairly! He clearly stated he would pay no cogniscence to democracy and would join - I incline to believe this is because his masters The NFU have told him to.
From the things Trevor Colman has said I can see him refusing if we vote Yes.
It is the ONLY morally acceptable stand point unless you wish to risk prostituting UKIP to extremism and the racism that is prevalent in The EFD Group.
It's all non-binding.
There is no position under law that is binding as EU Law pertains and No Party may excercise a 'whip' in The EU Pretence of a Parliament nor may any MEP be forced to be bound to act in a manner to suit a given party and nor may they represent their constituents in that Parliament they are obliged to represent The EU and its aims!
So what's the point in having it?
None whatsoever - but so also The EU!

Imagine what our opponents will do with the news that despite a party referendum result of X; A, B and C MEPs ignored the result. This plays right into their hands because they can then confidently state that just like the EU, UKIP MEPs are quite willing to ignore a referendum if they do not like the answer.
Don't worry - sadly UKIP have so befouled their image they are seen only as a joke in The EU Parliament and despite the many £Millions they have trousered they have not a single solitary achievem,ent to their name moving Britain closer top the exit - 18 years and NOTHING to show for it other than a small enriched claque.
How anyone cannot see that just shows the lack of political savvy of the entire leadership.
There has been no sign of political savvy in UKIP for many years.
We have collaborated with the EU in making this a devisive issue.
That was their aim and clearly it has worked well!

What should have happened was that each MEP should have been given the chance to make up their own mind.
You are assuming they have the ability! Would YOU be prepared to depend on decisions from Bufton, Bloom, Andreasen, Batten, Agnew etc. as they squabble like ferrets in a sack to keep their snouts in the trough!
That way, those who do not want to compromise their principles are happy and those who want to grab some cash can pat themselves on the head as well.
 Are you saying YOU are prepared to lend your vote to charlatans who deliberately 'compromise their principles' merely for cash!
I fear that whatever the outcome of the vote, it will do more harm than good.
That was the aim of The EU - as far as The EU is concerned they are well aware that the lower the calliber of people the more readily they will sell out their pretence to principles - Look who is backing the YES campaign to see the proof of that statement.
Posted by: Greg Lance-Watkins
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