The current version being debated by UKIP!


“Should the UK Independence Party's MEPs join a European Political Party and a European Political Foundation as defined under Regulation EC 2004/2003?”

Ballot papers due with Independence magazine scheduled for Monday 18-Jul-2011.
Return before Monday 15-Aug-2011
Count 16-Aug-2011

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Party Applications to form PEPPs 30-Sep-2011

CONSIDER AESOP The Lion & The Fox:

The EU was failing and was corrupt. So they pretended to be handing out money, which was just a ruse to make the greedy come to help progress their scam, but the strings attached were binding if hard to see.
The EUroRealists also came to see the offer, but didn't join a PEPP wishing to deal with The EU from outside its political clutches.
The EU asked the EUroRealists why they didn't come in as it was so lavishly rewarded and comfortable living on bribes.
The EUroRealists replied, 'Because we can see the tracks of those going in, but they are destroyed and there are no tracks showing they survived.'

Other people's lives are lessons in how we can avoid danger: it is easy to enter the house of a powerful man, but once you are inside, it may already be too late to get out.

Showing posts with label Strasbourg Plenary. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Strasbourg Plenary. Show all posts

Tuesday, 5 April 2011

05-Apr-2011 - UKIP: Sinclaire v Agnew on pan-European parties

05-Apr-2011 - UKIP: Sinclaire v Agnew on pan-European parties

An Exchange of View at The Strasbourg Plenary on Tuesday
In The So Called Debate In The EU Mock Parliament

UKIP: Sinclaire v Agnew on pan-European parties

So Agnew has been stupid enough to admit that as an MEP he - and his fellow EFD colleagues - are in it for the money, even if he does claim that it is to do 'God's work'. We had no idea that God had an Isle of Man bank account in the name of Nigel Farage!

He also made another gaffe. He went on record that 'we' do not accept the principle of European law. So that rules out Nigel's planned pan-European party from getting funding as you have to accept just that!

No what did Nigel say about Agnew?

as thick as shit but he has money”.

Quite!

Here is the exchange between Nikki Sinclaire and Stuart Agnew during Tuesday's EP debate on pan-EU parties. We also include some excellent comments by Barbara Booker of the British Democracy Forum.

Aggers had claimed that legislation would allow the EU to influence future UK referendums on the transfer of power, but that this would backfire as it would also allow us to fund a referendum on UK withdrawal.

Nikki intervened with:

Sinclaire: 
Would my colleague Mr Agnew agree with me that a political party that would accept funding under this legislation, as a single European party, and which in particular would have to observe the EU's programme and activities and the founding principles of European law, and the development of European law at all levels regionally, nationally and at European level, em> would be a party which has lost its principles? 
Would you agree with me, Mr Agnew?


Agnew:
I say to Ms Sinclaire that we will take what we can out of this because we use the devil's money to do God's work. That is what we do, and well you know it.

Sinclaire:

Will you accept the principle of European law though?

Agnew:

No, of course we do not. That is why we are here.


For the original comments by Agnew and Sinclaire: LINK

This is what Barabara Booker had to say:

As observance of the principles on which the EU is founded, including the rule of law, is an essential condition of receiving pan-EU party funding, and Stuart Agnew speaking on behalf of the EFD has now gone on record stating that "we" do not accept the principle of European law, this must surely rule out any party that EFD members join from receiving that funding? The rules are very strict and I should have thought any such EFD party would be challenged, or even refused funding outright, unless it dissociates itself unequivocally from Agnew's statement.

That should go down well with UKIP members - if the party agrees to go pan-European -hearing that they certainly do now accept the principle of European law!

Which led me to the comment:

Hi, 

I watched this exchange live in The EU mock parliament during this week's Strasbourg plenary.

Including what was a good speech against EU Funding of PEPPs by Independent ex UKipper Nikki Sinclaire - but her speech was put in the shade by one of Dan Hannan MEP's bravura performances.

Sadly Stuart Agnew's muddled speech representing The NFU, The EFD Group & presumably EUkip showed that trying to please 3 masters was clearly work for the devil!

That the poor old man lost the plot and quite clearly had a hissy fit did little to raise his profile - particularly when The EU's parliament chairman mistook him for Andrew Bronze MEP of The BNP.

Well I guess one extremist, racist, xenophobe is much the same as another, when feeding at the troughs on the gravy train and trying to milk the tax payer for yet more money to help The EU!!

Regards,
Greg_L-W
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To view the original article as posted CLICK HERE

05-Apr-2011 - EU Mock Debate IN STRASBOURG re FUNDING PEPPs!!

05-Apr-2011 - EU Mock Debate IN STRASBOURG re FUNDING PEPPs!!

Hi,

I note from my Inbox and from the internet that this week was off to a rapid start in The EUroRealist camp with Independent ex UKIP Nikki Sinclaire MEP putting out a Press Release from Brussels on Monday morning and then in Strasbourg for the plenary on Tuesday and I have tracked down 3 video clips made by close of play on Tuesday!

Having watched the debate on PEPPs live on video link I must congratulate Daniel Hannan MEP for his very good speech repudiating the very concept of PEPPs funded or unfunded by the Tax Payers. the EFD  and NFU rep Stuart Agnew MEP gave an exorable speech and embarrassingly voted for more money for Politicians and to help the EU gain more control and power over Britain and other vassal states!

When challenged on the Blue Card intervention Stuart Agnew was mistaken for The BNP MEP Andrew Bronze, clearly he is seen as an extremist and has had little impact in his 2 years on The Gravy Train!

The Blue Card question by Nikki Sinclaire MEP was to clarify how the principle of wanting more money and Pan EU Political Parties to aid The EU helped Britain - Poor man had a hissy fit and clearly lost his temper and was unable to answer the question so he invented a question of his own to answer and gave a rather silly answer - even when charged to clarify the morality he was unable to act coherently!

Here is the video clips I have found so far and I will add Dan Hannan's if I can find it and also van Orden's when they come to light!


OPPOSING YET MORE MONEY FOR POLITICIANS &amp; <a href="http://paneuparty.blogspot.com/">PEPPs </a>&amp; EU EFFORTS TO BUY THEIR WAY TO POWER



Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP explains why she believes her constituents have no interest in paying for more politicians as The West Midlands are suffering from economic deprivation as it is without The EU Buying its way to Power with funded PEPPs.

Monday, 4 April 2011

04/07-Apr-2011 - Strasbourg Plenary ON PEPPs

04/07-Apr-2011 - Strasbourg Plenary ON PEPPs


Strasbourg Plenary 4-7 April: nuclear, immigration, economic governance
 

Give EU political parties common legal, fiscal status - Giannakou

Report calls for higher cap on donations
European political groups do exist but they are simply umbrella organisations for national parties and don't have any direct contact with the electorate. MEPs on the Constitutional Affairs Committee want that to change. A first step to having EU political groups that represent European interests is a European statute giving them a common legal and fiscal status, says Marietta Giannakou, who is drafting Parliament's report on the rules and funding of European parties.

There are 13 European political parties, 10 of which receive funding from the EP. MEPs are calling for greater flexibility and transparency in funding. They want EU funding to rise to 90% from 85% and want the cap on donations to rise to €25,000 a year from €12,000, but also want penalties for infringements. Ms Giannakou explained more about the report.

How do you propose to move to genuine transnational "Europarties" competing in pan-European elections?

We are asking the Commission to create a specific statute for a European party. The EU has its own legal personality and we have the same goal for EU-level political parties. At the moment they are merely international NGOs, mostly registered in Belgium. This is unacceptable.

We have to distinguish between the creation of a European political party and its eligibility for funding. The statute will define rules on the recognition of EU-wide parties. In order to receive funding they must include at least one MEP.

We might have transnational lists in the future, but the report on electoral reform hasn't been voted on yet and the political groups have different positions on this particular issue.

Wouldn't the growing influence of EU-level parties mean that more decision-making shifts to Brussels, which would have an impact on democracy?

The statute will provide rules on internal party democracy and individual citizens could become members, in addition to national parties.

EU parties would be allowed to take part only in those referenda campaigns directly connected to European issues, for example on a change of treaty.

Isn't there a danger that we could end up with hundreds of EU-level parties?

There might be hundreds of new start-up parties, but in order to get funding they must have at least one MEP and member parties in the national or regional legislative assemblies of at least a quarter of member states (7 countries).

It's not easy to satisfy all these requirements. Currently we have 10 parties getting EP funding; I don't think there will be many more.

How will you ensure money is not wasted and is used transparently?

The funding will continue to be allocated by the EP; all the rules concerning control by the Court of Auditors and the other institutions are in place. I believe there won't be possibilities for corruption if the control authorities do their job well.

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