The current version being debated by UKIP!


“Should the UK Independence Party's MEPs join a European Political Party and a European Political Foundation as defined under Regulation EC 2004/2003?”

Ballot papers due with Independence magazine scheduled for Monday 18-Jul-2011.
Return before Monday 15-Aug-2011
Count 16-Aug-2011

Returning Officer Steve Allison

Party Applications to form PEPPs 30-Sep-2011

CONSIDER AESOP The Lion & The Fox:

The EU was failing and was corrupt. So they pretended to be handing out money, which was just a ruse to make the greedy come to help progress their scam, but the strings attached were binding if hard to see.
The EUroRealists also came to see the offer, but didn't join a PEPP wishing to deal with The EU from outside its political clutches.
The EU asked the EUroRealists why they didn't come in as it was so lavishly rewarded and comfortable living on bribes.
The EUroRealists replied, 'Because we can see the tracks of those going in, but they are destroyed and there are no tracks showing they survived.'

Other people's lives are lessons in how we can avoid danger: it is easy to enter the house of a powerful man, but once you are inside, it may already be too late to get out.

Wednesday, 17 August 2011

UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1

UKIP Vote NO to PEPPs 2 to 1

Hi,

Although this blog & others I am associated with published the results provisionally at 14:30hrs. yesterday you will note that today even a further 24 hours later UKIP has not published its results on its web site to inform its members.

The actual result was a win for the NO vote, as we earlier stated:
Yes 2,535 (32.9%)
No 5,161 (67.1%)

Turn Out 49.2%
I am rather pleased at the accuracy of my public prediction last week that I expected around 7.1/2 thousand voters which would represent between 2/3rds. and 3/4 of the extant membership. This, as predicted turned out to be true with 7,696 votes cast.
We were however wrong in our predictions not realising just how large an effect the internet has had on the event, but it is now clear that as a result of the various blogs informing people of the lies of Mick McGough in support of the yes campaign:

From Steve Allison
From steve allison
to Stuart Agnew MEP
cc Mick McGough
cc Trevor Colman MEP
cc Steve Crowther
Date 19.06.2011

Stuart,

I have received a complaint regarding the video.

Specifically the complaint refers to the claim by Mick McGough that he "has in his hand a cheque for £300,000 payable to UKIP"

The No campaign claim the money CANNOT be paid to UKIP.

Can you please confirm that the claim that the money can be paid from a PEP direct to UKIP is accurate.

If you cannot confirm this is a factually accurate statement then I must ask for the video to be withdrawn until a suitable correction of fact can be made.

Steve Allison
Vice Chairman UKIP.
Also the reprehensible comments of Stuart Agnew informing his audience that effectively he didn't care what the outcome of the vote would be he was going to join a PEPP regardless as he could make more money and that Godfrey Bloom had already joined one in the certain knowledge that the membership, at the party conference, had resoundingly rejected the scam.

I was wrong on my prediction that it would be a close run thing with maybe as little as 2% either way in the result - I really didn't realise just how much influence the truth would have on the members, you only need to read the in house Farage Fanzine The Independence Magazine to realise that was not where they were accessing the truth.

Clearly the activists and the 'armchair vote' alike have been keeping themselves aware of the dishonesty of the leadership via the blogs.

I guess we should not be as surprised as Mick McGough is not the only one who has made it very clear that he is a regular reader of both Junius and UKIP-vs-EUkip blogs on which he frequently comments and quotes, he even posts himself occasionally.

I guess all that leaves me to say to our regular readers and followers - Thank You for this little personal triumph in the efforts to Clean-Up UKIP to make it a party that ethical informed individuals may one day be willing to vote for to Leave-The-EU.

Let us hope that Farage and his parasites clinging on like maggots on a corpse realise their scam is dead in the water and rapidly withdraw from membership of the extremist, racist, anti Jewish and vile Pan EU Political Party EFD Group.

As soon as Farage is willing to forgo the extra income he makes and UKIP MEPs can be permitted to act in the interest of the electorate and Britain with control of their own 400 budget (formerly 4000 budget), their own travel allowances and staffing budgets and represent Britain in their own right on committees and 'missions' rather than have the allocation of travel and committees used as bribes to buy in members to the group to boost the group leaders income and personal control.

Enough of personality politics it has proved divisive and an abject failure for UKIP - where the leadership seemingly have utterly lost sight of the aim, which was to actively campaign to inform on the details of the damage done to Britain by membership of The EU, divise an exit and survival strategy and actively campaign to fulfil that strategy - NOT as a scam for self enrichment and Isle of Mann bank accounts and posturing on the gravy train with their snouts in the trough.
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Tuesday, 16 August 2011

UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

Hi,

It would seem that UKIP members have voted resoundingly against Farage's recommendation - his political ineptitude in trying to force the support of The EU on members for his personal gain has backfired.

Having chosen two dishonest men to front his pro PEPP campaign with the fraudster Stuart Agnew EFD & NFU MEP and the liar and cheat Mick McGough Farage made a terrible mistake as it became apparent to the membershiop that they were being deliberately lied to by their leadership - so much so that they were forced to withdraw some of their excesses and remake their video to remove some of the lies!

That this debate was forced on the party when Farage had resoundingly lost the support of members at last years conference and an overwhelming vote against membership of PEPPs was passed leading to Farage's accusation that Trevor Colman having won had just cost him (Farage) £1 Million a year!

To try to save face Farage has not only cost UKIP over £10,000 in organising the debate & vote but has deeply split the party leaving those who lied to support him with no honourable course of action other than to resign and leaving Farage in a ludicrous position!

Farage has fractured his party, divided his leadership and surrendered his mandate as leader - this on top of a £10,000 bill and a catastrophic local elections in May all based upon his crass personal lack of leadership skills.

To add to this he is now in the embarrassing position that he has forced out of UKIP leadership Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman & Nikki Sinclaire as they were unwilling to cohabit with Farage's chosen extremist, racist, anti Jewish and violent EFD Pan EU Political Party Group!

How can Farage be taken seriously ever again having made such a mess of his job and so betrayed his members? No informed individual could still believe he was much more than a puppet for The EU filling the role that it seems he was invented for - an opposition giving spurious credibility to the pretence The EU is in any way democratic.

Today even The EU are losers as it seems clear that UKIP members have seen through their scam and Farage is left discreditted. Will The EU dump their blue eyed boy and invent another puppet to posture and pose as an opposition whilst sabotaging the credibility of The EUroSceptic wing of The Tory Party?

Clearly UKIP members have voted against membership of The EFD and wisely so but will their leadership in arrogant greed merely dismiss the members as the buffoon Michael Greaves did, stating his master's view that UKIP Members are too stupid to understand the issues!

Farage has put himself into a corner where his party has voted resoundingly against his leadership and he has no honourable choice but to withdraw from leadership of The EFD immediately suspending UKIP membership of The Pan EU Political Party EFD Group - Pending notification to The EU that UKIP has terminated its membership - UKIP MEPs have no honourable choice but to sit as Unattached Members of The EU Parliament - a status where you may recal Nikki Sinclaire showed the lead as clearly more in touch with the members than Farage and his claque of parasites.

I note that over 5 hours after the vote result was in the public domain on my blogs, on Twitter and on Junius there is no sign of letting the membership at large know with no announcement, comment or apology on the UKIP Web Site, The No Campaign Web Page or The Yes Campaign Web Page respectively.

Is it that the leradership are licking their wounds and trying to dream up a story to cover for this catastrophy they have engineered for themselves?

Regards,
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16-Aug-2011 - 14:30hrs. Early reports indicate a NO Vote

16-Aug-2011 - 14:30hrs. Early reports indicate a NO Vote
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UKIP: So will Nigel Farage flush his career down the Water Loo


JUNIUS has a critical look at UKIP through the eyes of several long-standing members

Tuesday, 16 August 2011

UKIP: So will Nigel Farage flush his career down the Water Loo?

UKIP NEC member voices their opinion on Farage's desire to turn UKIP into a Pan-European party

How many UKIPPERS remember that the 15th August was Napoleon Bonaparte's birthday?

How ironic that the 15th of August was also the last chance for UKIPPERS to vote on the issue of UKIP MEPs joining a pan-European party! So will Farage face his Waterloo?

The votes are now being counted and we await the result with interest. UKIPPERS should consider the following facts:

The voting slips were unnumbered and were sent to a private address. Iffy!

Farage had already lost a previous conference debate on pan-European parties. Remember his reaction?

'they have just lost me 1 million Euros over this'. See: LINK

Certain MEPs have already made it clear that they will ignore a 'No Vote' and seek permission from their regional committee to join a PEP. Stuart Agnew is one.


Godfrey Bloom is already on the board of a PEP. See: LINK

Gerard Batten has already backtracked on the issue of PEPs. He now says that he will consider joining one IF there is a 'get out' clause!

A very large number of UKIP activists have said they will resign from the party if the 'Yes' campaign wins. We shall see!

So what if the 'Yes' campaign succeeds?

UKIP becomes pan-European and embraces federalism. Farage and his sycophants buy lifetime tickets on the EU Gravy Train. The core values of the party are abandoned.

And if the vote isn't rigged?

Farage and his parasites are humiliated. The party has wasted thousands of pounds in a pointless vote. The calls for Farage to resign as leader grow louder. Agnew and Farage join a PEP in defiance of the membership. Others follow suit.

This will be the time for certain MEPs to grasp the nettle and reclaim the party from the corrupt elements that have led UKIP into the sewer.

So are you fit for the challenge?

Also see: LINK & LINK

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Monday, 15 August 2011

UKIP: Napoleone's Birthday may be Farage's Waterloo

UKIP: Napoleone's Birthday may be Farage's Waterloo

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I note The French are keeping quiet about it being NAPOLEON'S Birthday & last day for UKIP PEPP votes to arrive for fiddling Pan EU Political Parties will this be Farage's Waterloo whichever way the vote is counted!

With a probable vote of between 6.5 & 7.5K (around 2/3rds. of the participatory membership) he could find himself in a problematic position as UKIP has between 50 & 100 serious activists and around 500>600 activists in total.

Of these one would hope that around 60-70% would have the integrity to vote against helping The EU.

However the bulk of the voters won't have a clue what the issues are and will back Farage, as the only known face to all of them.

This I would hazard a guess will result in a vote in favour of accepting the bribes and further unaccountable enrichment for the leadership in return for helping The EU undermine patriotic national politics, by introducing Pan EU Political Parties.

The tottering state of the extremist EFD Group is surely indication enough of the difficulty for Farage, as The Italians now dominate the group and with the fall in numbers and the fact that the Dutch with Wilders want no part of The EFD, and the group is so tainted that even the Austrians are cooling to the idea, and thus the group will shrink by Christmas, which is the crucial date. Losing slushfunds/bribes and staffing.

I doubt any UKIP MEP will have the integrity to leave, but you never know Nattrass might; Coleman, Batten & Bufton just MIGHT develop back bones! 
 
Andreasen is already on the verge as are Nattrass & Colman.

I do not believe that Sinclaire would accept ANY deal that put her back with the extremists and trash in The EFD - look how much more seriously the media have treated her as an Independent MEP, distanced from UKIP and outside of The EFD as non attached.

So if the vote goes in Farage's bank account's favour he stands to lose upto 5 MEPs though I concede that Sinclaire, Nattrass & Andreasen are the only ones likely to have the integrity to go, Colman MIGHT but neither Bufton or Batten have ever shown one wit of integrity, nor a shred of political aptitude, though to be fair Bufton does on occasions stand up to Farage but usually only in his own personal interest.

What if Farage loses?

That will mean he lost the debate at The Conference, was on the losing side over AV, had a catastrophic local elections, has lost several MEPs from the group, is likely to lose the goodwill and maybe the support of most of the activists and will have cost the party £10>15K on the vote - a vote whichever way it goes has been yet another long period of costly navel gazing which being close has split the party and the only notable supporters who spoke out were Stuart Agnew and Mick McGough both of whom have clearly proven track records as dishonest cheats and Mick McGough is a proven liar - would you want such scum on your side?

Either way the vote goes it has been damaging and divisive in a period when UKIP should have been concentrating on trying to clean up their act to TRY to make themselves credible and worthy of the votes of the informed.

It already looks, unless Farage can get his chums in the BNP, the Austrian extreme right and Vlaams into The EFD he will find he not only loses control to the Italians but also loses funding, staff and even perhaps his London Office in The EU building at Smith Square.

Farage's position looks, whichever way the vote goes, is weaker than when he rejoined the party after he had meetings with The BNP when he was removed from UKIP by Alan Skedd. 
 
There is no doubt that in terms of credibility and support in political terms the vote, and lies from the yes lobby have done huge damage to UKIP.

Whether UKIP can see howmuch damage has been done together with Annabelle Fuller's close association and position on the payrol particularly in view of her false accusations against a Tory MP and stealing his Blackberry and HoC Pass and the Bannerman debacle that was so predictable is another consideration.

Farage may well avoid his Waterloo as a result of the incredible disinterest in UKIP of the media and the moral indifference of UKIP's uninformed armchair vote.

The vote is scheduled to be counted at 09:00hrs. 16-Aug-2011 though based upon UKIP's track record of rigged votes it may well be, yet again, as Stalin so aptly said 'It doesn't matter how they vote but it matters how we count it'!

We will know which result was chosen at around lunchtime at a guess.

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Monday, 1 August 2011

UKIP: Another rigged vote? This Time Lies in 'INDEPENDENCE NEWS'

UKIP: Another rigged vote? This Time Lies in 'INDEPENDENCE NEWS'

UKIP: Another rigged vote?



Steve Crowther: Farage sycophant

UKIP has a history of botched, some may say "corrupted" internal elections. It looks as if another one is on the way.

UKIP members are voting on whether the party stays true to its original mandate - EU withdrawal - or goes into a Pan-European Political Party (PEPP).

Eyebrows were raised when it transpired that the unnumbered ballot papers would be sorted at a private address, but now the integrity and impartiality of UKIP party chairman - sorry Executive chairman - Steve Crowther is being called into question.

The consistency of UKIP's leadership to participate in dishonesty and lies causes members to view everything they do with a jaundiced eye and for the public at large not to trust them for domestic politics where they regularly poll 2-8% only in the selected constituencies they choose to stand in!

An influential figure has suggested that Crowther misled members over the potential access to funds that UKIP would enjoy as part of a Pan-European Party. 
Crowther has now admitted in an e-mail that:
"I did, inadvertently, state that 'foundation' funding had certain restrictions, where I should have said that PEP funding had those restrictions."
Crowther would have know that the restrictions, which are tight, would apply to a PEP, and that the suggestions in 'Independence' magazine that UKIP could benefit from such funds domestically were nothing more than a blatant lie intended to deceive the membership.

Anyone wanting to know the rules need only read this blog and where they may be in doubt links are provided to source documents.

Why had Steve Crowther not read this blog? This blog contains more regarding PEPPs than any other single site on the internet that we have been able to locate.

Based on this alone there is surely reason to re-run the ballot from the start, and to discipline the liars.

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Thursday, 14 July 2011

Mike SMITH on Teeside Hustings & UKIP's Abuse of Integrity! 10-Jul-2011

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« Reply #301 on: July 10, 2011, 11:15:04 PM »
Quote from: polly on July 10, 2011, 10:25:16 PM
sadly yes , by those same donkeys who now pay homage to the EU  ! all the more reason to get out .
Quote from: Mike Smith Gloucester on July 06, 2011, 08:56:10 PM
Polly,
Oh, I will continue to fight.  I am just no longer convinced that UKIP is the only way, especially if the vote on PEPPs goes the wrong way.
As for all those young men in French cemeteries were they not described as "lions led by donkeys"?
I have just returned from my final hustings meeting (in Teeside).
It is so sad to hear the arguments of those who want to become even further enmeshed in the workings of the EU.  (Not so much donkeys as flies, gratefully accepting the spider's invitation to come into his parlour.)
 They can be summed up in two words, Greed and Hypocrisy.
"We don't agree with state funding of political parties but because the others accept it we should too."
At least in this meeting we did not get the vitriolic personal attacks on Trevor Colman that have characterised previous meetings (I have now been to 4, Tiverton. Birmingham, Liverpool and Teeside.)

Evidence has emerged that the Leadership knew that the issue of PEPPs would be divisive back in 2009 and would necessitate a ballot of members.  (An e-mail from Jonathan Arnott, Party General Secretary, to Alan Wood, then Chairman of the South West Counties Committee.)

Still it ploughed ahead, trying to implement it in secret.
Thankfully, Trevor Colman had the honesty and courage to expose the moves (probably why the personal attacks were made).  Hence the motion at the Torquay Conference, passed by an overwhelming majority of members despite opposition of Nigel Farage.
The spokesman for the Yes campaign had the nerve to blame the SWCC for costing the Party money in holding a members' ballot.

The Leadership is clearly hopelessly out of touch with the membership.

This will be my last word on the subject until after the result of the ballot is announced.

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Tuesday, 12 July 2011

Tim Congdon on Pan-European Political Parties (PEPPs) - 12-Jul-2011

Tim Congdon on Pan-European Political Parties (PEPPs) - 12-Jul-2011

Hi,

I regret that the conversion from Excel to blogger is not wildly successful hence SOME of the figure work is a little difficult to puzzle out - If I trip over the data in a more understandable format I will post it here also!

More from Tim Congdon on Pan-European parties



Political parties at European level [meaning: pan-European parties] are funded from the general budget of the European Union. This budget may not be used for the funding of other political parties and in particular national political parties.” Repeat: the EU budget for pan-European political parties “may not be used for the funding of national political parties”. I quote from the official website of the EU (http://europa.eu/). My quotation is the official and definitive statement on the subject.

The UK Independence Party is undoubtedly a national political party. Indeed, its purpose is to restore in full the independence of the United Kingdom. As every member of UKIP deplores, this independence has been largely stolen from our country by a corrupt political elite collaborating with the EU’s bureaucracy. If UKIP is not a national political party as the EU understands that concept, I will eat my hat. So the EU’s budget for pan-European political parties is not to be used by national political parties, while UKIP is a national political party. It follows – logically, inescapably – that none of the EU’s money for pan-European political parties can be used by UKIP in the United Kingdom for UKIP’s own ends.

At this point you might say, “Full stop, end of story. There is nothing more to say. Let’s move on to the vital, important work that UKIP must do to take Britain out of the EU.” And I would agree with you 100%. Nevertheless, the team pushing for UKIP’s association with a pan-European political party claim on their website that an extra £400,000 a year would come to “our party”. This claim – which is their only argument – is false. No money would become available to “us” in UKIP for the purposes of “our party”. Do not believe the “yes to PEPPs” side if that is what they say.

How much money has been approved for all expenditure on PEPPs?

The 2011 EU Budget has a section on the European Parliament's expenditure and within that there is an allocation for 'political parties at the European level' (i.e., PEPPs)
The figures are, 17.4m. euros for the PEPPs as such, and 11.4m. euros for the Foundations.

This 28.8m. euros is divided up, according to a key in EP regulations.

But surely, you might protest, the “yes” side cannot be indulging in total fantasy. I have over the last few days carried out some homework on various EU and European Parliament websites, and am confident that I know how the “yes” team have derived their numbers.

The full story is quite complicated. You need an Excel file (which is available from me at timcongdon@btinternet.com and is also attached with this e-mail) to appreciate the detail of the calculations, but I can give the main points here. Remember that any sums arising from UKIP’s association with a pan-European political party come out of the EU Budget. That is why their expenditure is subject to European Parliament rules.

The promotion of pan-European political parties is seen by Eurocrats as part of the larger process of European integration. Indeed, so keen are the Eurocrats to expand pan-European political activity that they are hugely increasing the amounts spent. In 2009 the EU’s expenditure in this area was just under 17 million euros, whereas in 2011 the budget allocation has leapt to 28.8 million euros. The cynical and wasteful increase of almost 70 per cent in a mere two years is an insult to our taxpayers. It has occurred while our own government has had sharply to cut expenditure.

How does the key work?

EU regulations say 'The available budget for the political parties is distributed annually as follows: 15% is distributed in equal shares among the parties which have obtained a positive decision and 85% is distributed in proportion to the number of elected members.'

Box shows sums available and basis of apportionment.

Based on no. of PEPPs
Based on no. of MEPs

Total PEPPs, m. of euros 2.61 14.79 17.4
Foundations, m. euros 1.71 9.69 11.4

So, for example, of the 11.4m. Euros for the Foundations (i.e., think tanks), 1.71m. Is distributed according to the number of PEPPs which have 'obtained a positive decision' (meaning they have complied with EU criteria which a PEPP must meet). If there were 15 PEPPs, each Foundation associated with a PEPP would receive (1.7m. divided by 15) euros, or 113,300 euros out of this particular box.

The 28.8 million euros has two destinations. First, in Germany think-tanks or “foundations” affiliated to political parties have long been subsidized by the state. 11.4 million euros out of the 28.4 million is to finance the establishment of such “foundations” at the pan-European level. I estimate that the grant to the UKIP-related foundation due to our MEPs’ adhesion to the pan-European party would be about £170,000.

Secondly, the balance of 17.4 million euros is to be added to MEPs allowances. I believe – and I am sure most members of UKIP also believe – that MEPs’ allowances are too high already. At any rate, any MEP who joins a pan-European political party would see his or her allowances topped up by over £20,000. Let me underline once again that the resulting expenditure would be for the purposes of the pan-European party as regulated by the European Parliament, not for UKIP in the United Kingdom.

What would 'the European Alliance' receive by becoming a PEPP?

I am assuming that UKIP has 11 MEPs and that it belongs to 'the European Alliance', which has met the EU's criteria for being 'a political party at the European level'. I am also assuming that the European Alliance has 32 MEPs as members.
The following box shows how much the European Alliance would receive.

Receipts from being one of 11 Europarties Receipts from having 32 out of 736 MEPs i.e., 1/11 of amounts in box above (2.61, 1.71) i.e., 32/736 of amounts in box above (14.79, 9.69)
PEPP's money, euros 237,000 643,000

Money for a Foundation, in euros 155,000 421,000

So the total amount for the European Alliance (i.e., for its MEPs and its Foundation) would be about 1.45m. euros, which - at the present exchange rate - is roughly £1.3m. This is why the 'yes' side say that - by joining a PEPP - UKIP would stop 'our enemies' receiving £1.3m.

So the figure of “£400,000 for us in UKIP” on the “yes” website is explained, more or less. If all MEPs join “the European Alliance” or whatever, a new think-tank – perhaps located in Brussels – would be given a grant of about £170,000 and MEPs would receive altogether another £230,000 or so in extra expenses allowances. Do you approve of these uses of money in the name of the political party to which you belong? Is the 28.8 million euros budget to be seen as an excellent use of resources or the squandering of taxpayers’ money by a loathsome Euro- elite?

UKIP’s (or – in fact – UKIP’s MEPs’) acceptance of this sort of bribe from our enemies would be a shocking and deplorable betrayal. The “yes” side may say that the Conservatives, Labour and the LibDems have already participated in “political parties at the European level” and taken the money. They might ask, “why should UKIP be any different?”. The answer – I would hope – is that the UK Independence Party stands for principle and conviction, and is therefore opposed to politicians’ boondoggles. Politicians in the Conservative, Labour and LibDem parties are tacky and selfish, and we shouldn’t and won’t copy them. Let Conservative, Labour and LibDem MEPs join the other pigs at the trough. UKIP must not take money from a set of institutions that we detest.

Let me reiterate that no extra money would be directed to UKIP headquarters, any of UKIP’s branches or UKIP regional accounts. MEPs would indeed have (yet more) on their allowances, but could spend it only for purposes approved by the European Parliament. And do I need to say that the European Parliament’s officials loathe what UKIP stands for?

Vote No to the pan-European party idea in the forthcoming ballot.

Professor Tim Congdon CBE
12th July, 2011

Receipts for UKIP's MEPs as members of a PEPP

The PEPP's MEPs would receive 880,000 euros (237,000 + 643,000), to be spent on
for purposes regulated by the European Parliament.

The Foundation would receive 576,000 euros (155,000 + 421,000).

UKIP's MEPs would receive 11/32 of the 880,000 euros, which is 303,000 euros.

The Foundation would receive - as a result of the 11 UKIP MEPs' membership of the PEPP - a sum equal to 11/32 of 576,000 euros, or 198,000 euros.

The total sum received by the MEPs for PEPP activities and by the Foundation as a result of UKIP's participation in the PEPP would be 501,000 euros, which - at an exchange rate of 1.15 - is £436,000. 
 
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Saturday, 9 July 2011

Stuart AGNEW NFU MEP Tries To Justify His Dishonesty

Stuart AGNEW NFU MEP Tries To Justify His Dishonesty
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it really is astonishing, well I guess not in that Stuart Agnew NFU MEP has been shown and proven to have been involved in breech of electoral law, money laundering in cahoots with the ridiculously incompetent and duplicitous fool Malcolm Lord Pearson and also embroiled in conspiring to involve an innocent party in a criminal act by deception and then also involved, together with David Bannerman the liar and fraud MEP who has now betrayed both UKIP & The Tories, they were shown to be involved together defrauding the tax payers a case which I believe is still under investigation by OLAF and which will eventually be passed on to The British Police to prosecute.


The sums involved would seem to be about the same as those obtained by Tom Wise which you may recall he obtained as a result of signature by Lindsay Jenkins and from which Nigel Farage derived direct benefit in paying a personal bill of around £5,000.


You may recall Tom Wise went to prison for much the same crime and much the same amount!


Astonishingly the odious and clearly dishonest Stuart Agnew having obviously little understanding of ethics or morality would seem to have almost no understanding of democracy or decency either!


This particularly concerned one member of UKIP who took the trouble to clarify the details of Stuart Agnew's that he would betray the principles of democracy and ignore the democratic will of the party.


Just who does this arrogant fool think he is? Little wonder it is he and Mick McGough who are so clearly lieing through their teath to try to dupe UKIP's more gullible members into assisting The EU by supporting PEPP membership to 'give a clearer EUropean identity to Political Parties'.


I include Stuart Agnews quite astonishing response - even showing that although the selection of UKIP MEP candidates in his EU region was undeniably and utterly corrupt with liars like Mick McGough, David Bannerman and their ilk corrupting the process as shown CLICK HERE it was clearly with the collusion of low lifes like Stuart Agnew, Andrew Smith, Stuart Gulleford, Peter Reeve, Paul Nuttall, George Curtis etc.

Mr Agnew has stated on video that he would join a PEPP irrespective of the outcome of the ballot.

As this statement directly refutes the result of the democratic ballot to be held on the subject if that ballot decides NO, I wrote to Mr Agnew asking for clarification of his position .

His reply does indicate that he will abide by the democratic result and hence I withdraw my criticisms and apologise for possibly misleading members with  statements that are not true. I will delete any such references

Below is the reply Mr Agnew addressed to me:
Dear REDACTED

Thank you for your email dated 9th July 2011.

At the beginning of the campaign we were informed that the result would not be binding. I was therefore free, at that stage, to do what I felt would have been in the best interests of the Party, in my own opinion.

This might even have meant defying the wishes of  my own Regional Committee, and really going it alone. In such a circumstance, I would have to be very confident that I could deliver a result. The result would need to be a significant proportion of the 36,000 euros (net) per year that I would have access to being applied to the tangible benefit of the Eastern Counties.

Had I failed to achieve this, I could have rightfully expected de-selection by the Party as an MEP candidate next time around. Had I succeeded, I would still have needed to justify my conduct to the Eastern members and they would have had to make the decision of acknowledging that I had proved my point and re-instating me. Or insisting that my conduct was reprehensible, irrespective of any achievement, and punishing me accordingly.

My motivation for sticking my head on the block in this way is that in the last two European Parliament elections I have been the largest single financial donor to the Eastern Counties election funds. I will be expected to put in another big effort next time and I would quite naturally want to use all tools at my disposal. In my view turning £10 into £100 is a good move.

However, all of this is now theoretical as the NEC have ruled that the result will be binding.

I would like you to  know that I respect and adhere to NEC decisions, even if I do not necessarily agree with them.

You should also know that in 2008, all MEP candidates signed up to a list of principles/commitments/codes of conduct.

Of the 13 MEPs elected, I think that there are now only three of us who are adhering to all of these points, and their subsequent redefinitions, to the letter. I will not name names of course, but those who chose to lecture me about principles have not observed the principles they themselves signed up to.

I do hope that this makes my position clearer.  Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require any further information.

Yours sincerely,

Stuart Agnew  MEP
UK Independence Party
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